Discussion:
dlep-app reg.
Vigneswaran R
2013-04-30 07:08:47 UTC
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Hello,

Just curious to know about dlep-app
<http://wiki.confine-project.eu/soft:dlep> as it seems to be a
preliminary working version of DLEP (yet to try).

1. What version of dlep-draft is being used as the basis for dlep-app?
2. What custom changes make it not inter-operable with the existing
drafts? (please point me to the documents or white paper, if any)

Thank you.

Regards,
Vignesh
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Henning Rogge
2013-04-30 07:25:37 UTC
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Post by Vigneswaran R
Hello,
Just curious to know about dlep-app
<http://wiki.confine-project.eu/soft:dlep> as it seems to be a
preliminary working version of DLEP (yet to try).
Yes.
Post by Vigneswaran R
1. What version of dlep-draft is being used as the basis for dlep-app?
Unfortunately none.

When I started implementing our DLEP, the DLEP draft was in a really bad
shape and to vague to implement it. So we implemented a private version
of the concept.
Post by Vigneswaran R
2. What custom changes make it not inter-operable with the existing
drafts? (please point me to the documents or white paper, if any)
At the moment our implementation is completely non-inter-operable.

There has been a new dlep-draft a couple of weeks ago (dlep-04), which
seems to be stable enough to be implemented, so we plan to do a complete
rewrite based on the draft in the next months.

If you are interested in the project, I would like to hear your thoughts
on how to rewrite the src/olsr_layer2.c and src/olsr_layer2.h code.
After working with this code for some time, I feel it might be too
difficult to extend.

We also would be happy to see more people participating in the DLEP
discussion on the IETF Manet mailing list!

Henning Rogge
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Vigneswaran R
2013-04-30 07:38:57 UTC
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Post by Henning Rogge
Post by Vigneswaran R
Hello,
Just curious to know about dlep-app
<http://wiki.confine-project.eu/soft:dlep> as it seems to be a
preliminary working version of DLEP (yet to try).
Yes.
Post by Vigneswaran R
1. What version of dlep-draft is being used as the basis for dlep-app?
Unfortunately none.
When I started implementing our DLEP, the DLEP draft was in a really
bad shape and to vague to implement it. So we implemented a private
version of the concept.
Ok
Post by Henning Rogge
Post by Vigneswaran R
2. What custom changes make it not inter-operable with the existing
drafts? (please point me to the documents or white paper, if any)
At the moment our implementation is completely non-inter-operable.
There has been a new dlep-draft a couple of weeks ago (dlep-04), which
seems to be stable enough to be implemented, so we plan to do a
complete rewrite based on the draft in the next months.
If you are interested in the project, I would like to hear your
thoughts on how to rewrite the src/olsr_layer2.c and src/olsr_layer2.h
code. After working with this code for some time, I feel it might be
too difficult to extend.
Ok. I just started exploring the code. I will get back to you.
Post by Henning Rogge
We also would be happy to see more people participating in the DLEP
discussion on the IETF Manet mailing list!
Relatively new to this field. As of now, closely watching the
discussions going on.

Thank you for your quick reply.


Regards,
Vignesh
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Ben West
2013-04-30 12:19:44 UTC
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Hi Henning and Vignesh!

Interesting and encouraging to read that dlep-app is undergoing revision
and rejuvenation!

I must admit to having been quietly admiring the version residing at the
URLs below, with the hope of trying it out on a platform like Commotion
OpenWRT.
https://github.com/confine-project/confine-dist/tree/master/packages/confine(as
packaged into Confine)
http://olsr.org/git/?p=dlep_app.git;a=tree (the current repo?)

In lieu of a new dlep-04 implementation, would you recommend I simply hold
entirely, or go ahead and try out the existing implementation for simple
evaluation purposes (even tho it is now out of sync with the draft)? That
is, provided I don't attempt to develop tools that depend on the existing
implementation, then swapping out dlep-app for the new version shouldn't be
too difficult, right?

Thank you.

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Henning Rogge <
Post by Vigneswaran R
Post by Vigneswaran R
Hello,
Just curious to know about dlep-app
<http://wiki.confine-project.**eu/soft:dlep<http://wiki.confine-project.eu/soft:dlep>>
as it seems to be a
preliminary working version of DLEP (yet to try).
Yes.
1. What version of dlep-draft is being used as the basis for dlep-app?
Unfortunately none.
When I started implementing our DLEP, the DLEP draft was in a really bad
shape and to vague to implement it. So we implemented a private version of
the concept.
2. What custom changes make it not inter-operable with the existing
Post by Vigneswaran R
drafts? (please point me to the documents or white paper, if any)
At the moment our implementation is completely non-inter-operable.
There has been a new dlep-draft a couple of weeks ago (dlep-04), which
seems to be stable enough to be implemented, so we plan to do a complete
rewrite based on the draft in the next months.
If you are interested in the project, I would like to hear your thoughts
on how to rewrite the src/olsr_layer2.c and src/olsr_layer2.h code. After
working with this code for some time, I feel it might be too difficult to
extend.
We also would be happy to see more people participating in the DLEP
discussion on the IETF Manet mailing list!
Henning Rogge
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Henning Rogge
2013-04-30 12:45:28 UTC
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Post by Ben West
Hi Henning and Vignesh!
Interesting and encouraging to read that dlep-app is undergoing revision
and rejuvenation!
I must admit to having been quietly admiring the version residing at the
URLs below, with the hope of trying it out on a platform like Commotion
OpenWRT.
https://github.com/confine-project/confine-dist/tree/master/packages/confine
<https://github.com/confine-project/confine-dist/tree/master/packages/confine>
(as packaged into Confine)
http://olsr.org/git/?p=dlep_app.git;a=tree
<http://olsr.org/git/?p=dlep_app.git;a=tree> (the current repo?)
Yes, that is the current repo with all the development stuff going on.
Highly experimental because I have worked A LOT on the API stuff, but
not on DLEP in the last months.

The confine Repo should be fine.
Post by Ben West
In lieu of a new dlep-04 implementation, would you recommend I simply
hold entirely, or go ahead and try out the existing implementation for
simple evaluation purposes (even tho it is now out of sync with the
draft)?
I would be happy to get any input on the current confine implementation,
so I can make the coming DLEP rewrite better than the current DLEP code.
Post by Ben West
That is, provided I don't attempt to develop tools that depend
on the existing implementation, then swapping out dlep-app for the new
version shouldn't be too difficult, right?
That depends on if we keep the src/olsr_layer2.[ch] stuff or if we
change it to a more generic key/value list. Either way, the adaptation
should not be that difficult because most applications only have to deal
with the layer-2 db stuff.

Henning Rogge
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